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Will Mark McGwire ever make the Hall of Fame? or will he forever be in the steroid purgatory known as the?
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Holland     Reply with quote
Hall of Shame?He has not done much explaining or interviewing since that pathetic 2005 Congressional Hearing when he said, ''I am not here to talk about my past''regarding his possible past steroid usage.l feel that unless he honestly opens up about his past to the media, he will never make the Hall of Fame.Keep in mind, he had 583 HR is and 1,414 RBI's.He, Sosa, Bonds, Clemens and Palmeiro, to name a few, will never make the Hall of Fame because of the steroid use.If you let them in, then you better let Charlie Hustle, Pete Rose in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_mcgwire
Chipmaker, why do you stick up for Mac so much?You know as well as l do, that he was taking steroids as far back as the late 80's, he had huge Paul Bunyon arms, remember that mammoth HR he hit at the Kingdome in Seattle?Must have gone 600 feet.It was clearly chronicled in Jose Canseco is first book, ''Juiced'' that he and fellow ''Bash Brother'' McGwire were steroid users.Canseco taught Mac everything about roids and even shot him up.You know this is true buddy.
So, Chipmaker, according to your rationale, since steroids were outlawed by baseball post 2003, then all of Jose Canseco is stats should be legit and recognized, since he played from 1985-2001?even though Jose is an admitted steroid user?If you truly believe that, then perhaps Jose is career numbers should be debated for possilbe Hall of Fame worthiness?
Dragon     Reply with quote
NO, McGwire should NEVER make the Hall, he is a disgrace. Big Paul Bunyon arms was a juicer from 1987-2001, his entire career.
Cat     Reply with quote
Shoeless Joe is still waiting in his grave. l do not see it ever happening.
Blake     Reply with quote
If he does, it will be a disgrace to the MLB HOF.
Coach     Reply with quote
Nah, he is a disgrace to all of baseball.
Kim     Reply with quote
l do not think he will ever make with the steroids allegations.
Lostyo     Reply with quote
Steroids my friend, he will never ever make it he cheated his way to the top!
Bobyer     Reply with quote
Steriods will keep him out for many many years.
The writers do not like rule benders. Look at Pete Rose.
Kickshaw     Reply with quote
l have severe doubts McGwire will ever get his bronze due, but there is one future watershed event that just might change the Hall voting landscape.

Palmeiro.

Palmeiro qualifies for the 2011 ballot, & he is the smoking gun candidate, the one who was irrefutably nailed as a steroid user.

Mac? Hints, allegations, acknowledged use of a legal, available, permitted steroidal precursor, & some pretty sloppy testimony before a Congressional committee. But NO smoking gun.

So in 2011, when Palmeiro gets utterly slaughtered on the ballot return, a plurality of writers might (and this is just a guess) consider that Raffy, finally, is enough blood for the steroid era, & cast a fairer glance upon McGwire.

The other thing that possibly could improve his candidacy is chances is a series of interviews wherein he talks candidly about, well, whatever he did during the high times.

(And, note, this does not have a friggin' thing to do with Rose. STOP with these idiotic ''if X, then Rose'' claims. It is stupid, & such arguers should be embarrassed by such public displays of wanton ignorance.)

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l ''stick up'' for rational evaluation & not simplistic spewage of emotional gorge. That way lies dogmatic idiocy, destructive ideology, & very, very bad public policy.

l do not KNOW anything about what McGwire may or may not have used, other than the androstenedione. More to the point, l do not care. Until MLB & the MLBPA enacted a collectively bargained ban in 2003 upon performance enhancing steroids, no one was breaking any rules. No rules, no breakage. And this really is an important distinction.

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Last edit, because this forum sucketh mightily for interactive exchange.

Canseco played pre-ban, so No, l do not care what he was doing. Baseball is a competitive enterprise that attracts competitive individuals, all of whom r always looking for an edge. Canseco found one, & used it. One may debate the wisdom or legality* or morality of his decision, but one cannot say he broke the rules, because he did not. His statistics stand, & will forever. Regards the Hall, that debate is over. The Joser stood on the ballot one time, in 2007, & received six votes, 1.1%, was relegated, & that was that. The writers delivered an excruciatingly clear verdict, that of No Way Jose. l do not have a dispute with this. l do not think he was a Hall-class player, & that has nothing to do with his admitted steroid use or his many off-field antics. The writers, some of them, probably vested such things into their votes; fine. l may not agree with their reasonings, but am in accord with the outcome.
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* This would be a matter for the relevant district attorney & not the commissioner. Jurisdiction is important.
Lemon     Reply with quote
McGwire make the Hall of Fame (LMAO) NEVER. SInce he got on the juice he destroyed his career. l thought that year that McGwire & Sosa were neck to neck in the home run contest was the greatest thing for baseball. What in the hell was they thinking of. It was easy to see that he was on something. What a shame.
couzo     Reply with quote
Well obviously as more stars from the steroid era become eligible for the Hall of Fame we will find out whether or not the writers are going to put them in. Personally, l do not think Mark McGwire deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. There is almost no doubt that he was juicing almost his entire career. You do not go from the skinny Mark McGwire in 1988 to the totally ripped Mark McGwire who hits 70 homers in a season in 1998 without some kind of steroids.
Callaway     Reply with quote
im for letting him in if they let pete rose and joe jackson in
Que     Reply with quote
He is a steroid joke along with the yankees of the 90 is none of which deserve the hall.
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